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We're a small, quickly growing to mid-sized discrete manufacturing firm (roughly 50 employees, probably 100+ by end of 2006), with a growing number of distributors (and indirectly, the dealers that are their customer base). We receive many end-user leads, which we then pass to these distributors (and sometimes the dealers, directly).

We have a primarily inside sales force, who speaks with everyone from distributors and dealers, to architects, project managers, multi-family developers and recording studio owners (we manufacture a family of construction products).

We have a small sales team, and nearly non-existing marketing department -- so need to leverage efficiency and productivity via technology.

Our current environment is beginning to cost more and more time -- so we're research CRM and other apps, in order to quickly develop a roadmap.

We have a standard, Windows-based distributed environment, and we use QuickBase for SFA (by Intuit - very light on features, compared to even quasi-CRM like ME9). We use Outlook for email, standard Office apps organized by folder, Microsoft (formerly Great Plains) SBF (Small Business Financials 8.0) for everything from customer orders and invoices, to inventory management, to accounting. Finally, we run our online store (a small part of our total business, but one with a high volume of small, end-user orders) via Yahoo! Store.

None of these systems are integrated, and we are rapidly outgrowing them.

ME8 (and now ME9) is intriguing because:

A. The price point is much lower than full-featured CRM like Siebel, but it has many similar features.

B. A Maximizer 3rd Party Developer called AccMAX has a module that would allow us to run SBF from within Maximizer (and automatically have orders accessible via customer record, etc.).

C. Inherent integration with Office apps (Outlook, Word, etc.) would help our organization and efficiency.

D. ME9 is less expensive (amortized over 2-3 years) than a hosted app with a monthly fee such as Salesforce.

Our concerns:

1. There seems to be a lot of IT admin and even integration needed to ensure proper function of even "out of the box" functionality. For instance, to mimic QuickBase's web interface, we have to purchase eCRM, and dedicate a server to which people can log on via VPN (and candidly, we don't have a great handle on what is needed technically for this - if anyone reading this does, input will be appreciated).

2. The reports of technical issues on this message board are far from encouraging.

3. We have to trust not one vendor (Maximizer), but two - one even smaller, and more unknown (AccMAX).

4. I used to use Maximizer (pre ME), and ran the first version of ME in '95 or so -- and it was both great, and unique (opportunity management was in its infancy in those days, at least in the "sub-Siebel" market). However, the more I read - the less "out of the box" it seems.

Choices seem to be:

1. Try to stay with current apps, and make the best of it, maybe via some custom integration.

2. Go with the more expensive, but seemingly more safe world of hosted apps.

3. Take a chance on ME9, and hope that efficiency and productivity improve because of it.

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS:

1. Given all of the above, does anyone have suggestions, ME-related or not?

2. If this were your decision, what would you do?

3. Any strong suggestions or warnings regarding ME OR any other CRM apps? (Siebel, Salesforce, NetSuite, Sage, etc. etc.)

Thanks in advance for any help or insight you can offer.
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I would strongly recommend obtaining the 30-day demo version from Maximizer and installing it in a working environment.

Note that with some sales organizations, Maximizer Enterprise can be troublesome as you pay per named user. This is much different compared to other products like Goldmine. If you have any amount of turnover or have a salesforce that is staggered during different times, you have to disable some users so others can logon. Quite annoying if you ask me. I much prefer a per seat setup which will only let you have the number of paid users on the system at any one time. With Maximizer you have to disable/enable accounts if you have more total users than concurrent users you have paid for.

During our testing of the product, stability issues were not too much of an issue. We only encountered one or two random errors in our test environment.

Customization was lacking, but we were using Maximizer Enterprise 8. It seems these customization issues have been remedied in Maximizer Enterprise 9. In ME8 we did not like the TAPI integration and had to use Modem settings instead for autodialing. Word integration and the word processor in ME8 were terrible. We had to try a program called Max Doc to get what we needed. All of these issues may have been resolved in ME9.

Finally, ME8 and now ME9 (as far as I know) have no Merge/Purge capability. This is very problematic if you do list updates on a regular basis using larger amounts of preformatted list data.

Just some food for thought.
>There seems to be a lot of IT admin and even integration needed to
>ensure proper function of even "out of the box" functionality. For
>instance, to mimic QuickBase's web interface, we have to purchase eCRM,
>and dedicate a server to which people can log on via VPN

Please explain what you mean by "integration". As for "admin", yes there is some, but whether it constitutes "a lot" is somewhat subjective.

>(and candidly, we don't have a great handle on what is needed
>technically for this - if anyone reading this does, input will be
>appreciated).

The short answer is that you'd need an IIS_5/6 server with the Maximizer web components installed on it, and that server must be able to communicate with the SQL server that houses your Maximizer data (if it is a separate machine). Portal users do not have to "log on via VPN", they just have to be able to hit the web server from a machine running IE6.

However, ToyMaster is right - you should talk to a Maximizer Business Partner for the most authoritative answers to pre-sales questions like this.

>The reports of technical issues on this message board are far from
>encouraging.

Bear in mind that the postings to this board do not represent an unbiased sample.

>Go with the more expensive, but seemingly more safe world of hosted
>apps.

"Safe" is another relative term. Before you decide to let some other company have possession and control of your data, consider the following questions:

- If the application provider goes out of business are you guaranteed that you will get your data back? Does the application provider contract out the hosting services? If so, what happens if the hosting provider goes out of business?

- What guarantees does the application provider give regarding levels of service (e.g., uptime and performance)? Do those guarantees contain any escape clauses citing things like "unforeseen circumstances"?

- Where is your data physically located, and under what jurisdiction(s) does it fall? If it is hosted in a different country it may be subject to the laws of that country regarding things like privacy, restrictions on the other company's ability to do business - even indirectly - with foreign countries (e.g., if some of your customers are in countries on their restricted list), etc..

>If this were your decision, what would you do?

Delegate. Wink
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